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Gain distance by stepping down in disc weight?

Postby kling » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:24 am

My main drivers are a couple of 175g DX Gazelles (love them), I can throw these a tad longer than 250 feet. How much more distance could I get by stepping down to, let's say 165-170g DX Gazelles? I.e. is it worth it? :)
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Postby Blake_T » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:13 pm

a legit drop from 175 to 168 at your power level would probably yield a 20-30' max d increase once it breaks in a little.

as for average controlled lines probably more in the ballpark of 10-20'.

have to keep in mind those are substantial percentage increases (i consider anything > 5% to be substantial).

it is more likely that your 175's are probably closer to 180g.
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Postby kling » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:45 pm

Yeah that kind of increase is substantial and sounds very nice indeed :D
Really don't want to spend the $ since the ones I got "works", but this kind of increase would leed to lower scores. So I think I will buy a couple :)
I do have a lot work to do to improve my form as well (played for about a year) now that the snow has melted.

Actually I have put them on a scale so I know they weigh 175g (suprisingly).
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Postby NCSUphenom » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:50 pm

With your distance, i would definetely say you are using discs way to heavy for you, you should definetely invest in some lighter plastic.
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Postby kling » Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:22 pm

Thanks I think I'll do that! But I will have to stick to my 180g Rocs, switching them as well would be to expensive. (Have to say, in my defense, that I got the heavy discs cheap and I didn't get to choose the weights :))
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Postby TexasOutlaw » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:45 pm

Couple things: You may want to carry both a 175 and a lighter (168?) version of the same disc for stability purposes though I don't really do it. Even my wind driver (z predator) is 172.

The other thing I was gonna add was about your rocs: I don't know the physics behind it, but for midranges (and I think putters), the heavier ones go farther. So, your 180 rocs are right on track! My buzz are 178.
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Postby twmccoy » Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:44 pm

You might also consider a sidewinder or valk in light weight. They both move faster than a gazelle but have a beginner friendly flight path.
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Postby cschwab » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:03 pm

I can throw about 350 and prefer using lighter drivers in the 167-170 range. I carry max weight ones windy days but find in most conditions the slightly lighter ones are just as easy to control and go farther.
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Postby Blake_T » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:48 pm

i second the carrying multiple weights recommendation.

mold dictates stability much more than weight, but often you want subtle stability differences, such as when you absolutely positively don't want to turn the disc over but you still want a straightish flight or you want the disc to hold the same line but fade sligthly earlier than usual, moderate winds, etc.. heavier discs will fit that bill.

imo, the best rocs started out 180g and got beat up to the point where they are now 175g :)
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Postby kling » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:32 am

This is great news! The full weight Rocs are good to use (for me) and buying new, lighter Gazelles will not render my existing full weight ones useless :D

Haha shaving of 5g of a Roc requires som serious beating in :)

Thanks all!
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Postby Weebl » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:41 am

I was experimenting the other day with my 164 starfire and 175 valkyrie. I would have to do a distance annhyzer route to beat my valkyrie distances, which were just set with 15' heigth and 8' left/right turnover room. Even on a distance line, it sometimes wouldn't get past it... I really enjoy this late fade thing with heavy valkyries.
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Postby schla104 » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:50 am

Ah I need to take some weight off of these archangels. like about 7g if not more because they say 175 but i have yet to actually weigh them.
I noticed with my firebirds that I can't throw the 175g as far as I can throw my 170g.
I'm going to start making sure my discs are around 170
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Postby TexasOutlaw » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:53 pm

Blake_T wrote:
imo, the best rocs started out 180g and got beat up to the point where they are now 175g :)


That has been why I have gravitated to higher weights. I realize that my 168 cyclone is probably 162 by now.
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Postby Blake_T » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:00 pm

5g takes like 2 years unless you are constantly sliding across asphalt and sanding it off :P
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