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Postby TexasOutlaw » Fri May 12, 2006 8:14 am

I'm surprised that there isn't much talk about the z wasp; it's a very good disc.
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Re: Z wasp

Postby Pagan » Fri May 12, 2006 8:49 am

TexasOutlaw wrote:I'm surprised that there isn't much talk about the z wasp; it's a very good disc.


It's a freakin awesome disc! It's a great complement to the buzz too. When most folks are pulling out their Rocs around here, my wasp is out and gliding down the fairway. It's always getting a "what was that you threw?!" response...
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Postby discmonkey42 » Fri May 12, 2006 11:09 am

My wasp and buzz (and shark, coyote, roc, champ roc, beat roc, and mrv :D )were replaced by an s element x. That said, the wasp makes it back into my bag on occasions simply because I like watching it fly. It is an excellent disc. I also use it for the wooded courses around here when I don't want to slam my element x into a tree or two.
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Postby bigs348 » Fri May 12, 2006 11:12 am

q-sentinel. 'nuff said.
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Postby krusen » Fri May 12, 2006 11:14 am

For wind or hard turns, the Z Wasp flat out performs.
I have 3 Z Wasps and 2 X Wasps. That is more than any other disc I own. Maybe that tells you a little about my feelings for this disc.

I also have 2 midnight Z Buzzes and one D Buzz. I shouldn't need a mid range for quite some time unless I lose my D Buzz.

I hate losing a good buzz :D
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Postby TexasOutlaw » Fri May 12, 2006 11:53 am

Why didn't y'all tell me? I just got mine! :!:

I haven't had a 30-45 mph wind day, but if it performs...bye bye demon.

Is the element x buzz like?
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Postby sleepy » Fri May 12, 2006 12:19 pm

On Joe's Universal Flight Chart, the Wasp and Roc are nearly identical; with the Wasp being only .5 more stable at low speeds...3 for the Wasp, 2.5 for the Roc.

That being said, how do you all feel the Roc and Wasp compare? Does a beat in wasp fly as nicely as the famous beat in Roc? Is a Z Wasp the closest substitute for a Champion Roc?

Also, if you use a D Wasp, once it beats in is there a need for a Buzzz?


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Postby Blake_T » Fri May 12, 2006 12:23 pm

sleepy wrote:That being said, how do you all feel the Roc and Wasp compare?


they compare like they do on the flight chart. the wasp is slightly more overstable.

Does a beat in wasp fly as nicely as the famous beat in Roc?


for the most part, yes, but the wasp has less glide and are a little more difficult to break in since the d plastic it is in is prone to warping and the z takes forever to break in. the x are domey and are more comperable to a domey roc than a flatter roc.

Is a Z Wasp the closest substitute for a Champion Roc?


closer to a 2001 yes, but with a lot less glide.

Also, if you use a D Wasp, once it beats in is there a need for a Buzzz?


depends how you want to throw it. a very broken in roc/wasp must be thrown hyzer to fly straight. the buzzz is more of a "throw it flat" disc.
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Postby TexasOutlaw » Fri May 12, 2006 12:34 pm

I'll be able to hyzer flip my d buzz once I break it in right?
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Postby the invisible tree » Fri May 12, 2006 2:05 pm

sleepy wrote:
Also, if you use a D Wasp, once it beats in is there a need for a Buzzz?



The Z Wasp that I have been using for around 3 months has broken in to new Buzzz stability for me. I'm working on a D Wasp now. I never thought I would replace the Buzzz but the Wasp has done it. It allows me to only throw 1 midrange mold. Also, the new D Wasp that I have is a fair bit less overstable than a new Z Wasp. Both discs are 176g. Actually the D has that stupid 175-176g sticker but that's close enough.
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Postby sleepy » Fri May 12, 2006 4:38 pm

Thanks all. I think I'm almost ready to stop obsessing and just pick a midrange already. :P


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Postby jase » Fri May 12, 2006 8:47 pm

I can throw a roc amazingly, but could never throw a wasp. It wouldn't go straight like my roc would.
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