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Converting to a more minimalist approach

Postby schla104 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:37 am

This past weekend I played in a tourney and played HORRIBLE. I realized that I'm carrying different discs for different jobs and trying to throw them all flat. This isn't working and I feel has made me worse. So I want to eliminate some discs from my bag. I'm open for some suggestions as where to start. I play mostly forehand although I have been working on my backhand.

Champ Wraith
ESP Buzz
Pro Gazelle 11x
X Predator
Pro Starfire
Z Flick
Star SL
ESP Avenger
Star TeeRex
DX Gazelle
Pro Starfire
Pro Leopard
possibly San Marino Roc.
S Med Wizard
S Warlock

I plan on going out and playing rounds with 3-4 discs to find what I really like but I'd like some outside unbiased opinions.
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Re: Converting to a more minimalist approach

Postby tushamajig13 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:47 am

schla104 wrote:Z Flick
X Predator

Champ Wraith
Star TeeRex

Pro Starfire
Pro Starfire
Star SL
ESP Avenger

Pro Gazelle 11x
DX Gazelle
Pro Leopard

possibly San Marino Roc.
ESP Buzz

S Med Wizard
S Warlock


obviously blake will have a better assessment than i, but more opinions always rear better results

you will want to choose one from each group

from the top group, i would go with the predator...its just a better overstable driver

next, i would choose the wraith....just better in my opinion than the teerex

next, i would go gazelle, and then the roc, and then the wizard (a beat wizard will become your warlock)

once you have established which mold from each group you want to keep, you will need to get multiples of each in different plastics, stages of wear, and weights to handle different shots

rocs are a great example

new kc roc 180 = overstable midrange
new dx roc 180 = mod overstable midrange
slightly beat dx roc 180 = straight to slight fade
beat dx 180 or new dx 165ish = straight straight straight
super beat dx 180 (3 years of beat) or beat 165ish = turnover

obviously this is just a hypothetical make-up, but you get idea...if you do this same thing for drivers, fairway driver, and midranges, youll have all shots covered

rotating discs in and out will keep them at the stage of wear you need them to be
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Postby jamsisjams » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:15 am

How far do you throw?
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Postby schla104 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:43 am

350 ish. Sometimes a bit more, sometimes less. Average would be around 350 for drives.
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Postby black udder » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:58 am

Go out in a field, setup an object to "hit" and throw them all. Keep the ones that you throw most accurately, most consistently. See if you can cover all your shot requirements as well.

Practice throwing discs as you would throw them on the holes. This will give you plenty of room without bashing up the discs and you can throw a bunch of discs without holding anybody up or feeling rushed.

count your discs before and after the session.

You could visit the article section for some technique exercises that might help, also.

Make sure you place your target near and far to your distance. 350' might be your average "field" distance, but a lot of courses don't allow for that so you might be having issues throttling down or perhaps trying to go too far and not being smooth.
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Re: Converting to a more minimalist approach

Postby garublador » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:11 pm

schla104 wrote:I plan on going out and playing rounds with 3-4 discs to find what I really like but I'd like some outside unbiased opinions.
Out of those, I'd start with the Wizard or Warlock, Buzzz and DX Gazelle for your three discs. If you want to add a 4th I'd pick a very overstable driver; the Z Pred would be the natural choice if you already throw the X.
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Postby Aaron_D » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:23 pm

Wizard, buzz, x predator

I would like to see the buzz replaced with a dx roc, but hey.
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Postby Mike-S » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:48 pm

pick one, lose the other:
ESP Avenger
Star TeeRex

pick one, lose the other 2:
Champ Wraith
Pro Starfire
Star SL

pick one, lose the other:
Z Flick
X Predator - remember this is discontinued now

Pick one mold:
Pro Gazelle 11x
DX Gazelle
Pro Leopard

Pick one:
ESP Buzz
possibly San Marino Roc.

If you're using these for different things, ok. If you're switching back and forth between them for the same kinds of throws, you need to pick one:
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Postby schla104 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:25 pm

Well tonight I played league with:

Predator (old X one. Beat up. Can turn it thrown flat. Stays straight with a little hyzer then a nice long fade)
Predator (new ESP. Flies nice and overstable. thrown flat goes straight with a nice long fade)
Wraith (only reached for this on two long holes)
Avenger ( ESP nice and straight. Holds lines well.)
Leopard (Nice shorter disc. Turns pretty easily but flies nice and straight if thrown flat without much power)
Roc (Didn't really get to throw it. Not good enough with backhand to take a good shot in league)
Wizard (eh. Love it)

I would say the round felt pretty good despite a poor score. The poor score came mostly from three holes with two doubles and a triple. Other than that I enjoyed it.
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