My Developing Bag

[practically invincible]

Ok, so im throwing about 360' consistently and I really like my set-up but I'm interested in your views. It was developed with help from some buddies who are disc golf (almost) pro's

Understable Drivers (max distance)
1. CE Orc 169g worn more understable
2. Star Orc 163g newer
3. (on order) Star Orc 174g

Stable/headwind
1. Star starfire 172g
2.Star starfire xout, more stable

Fairway driver
1. CE eagle 175g
2. CE Eagle 169g

Midrange
1. CE shark 169g (phasing out do to lack of need for this disc)
2. Elite z breeze (won in tourney today, trying it out) good for long long putts

Putters
1. Elite z magnets 169g and 175g depending on wind/etc

Edit: I almost forgot these two...

Trick discs
1. CE roadrunner 175g
2. DX beast 175g beat beyond reason
both of these are used for overhands, super turnovers, or other weird throws depending on the course.

I also have a new avenger i'll be messing around with but might not add to the bag. Thoughts?

[IowaDiscGolf]

By CE do you mean Champion?

[Bradley Walker]

You need a Roc, Buzzz, or Wasp.

You have no beefy mid.

Other than that, I like it for your power. I used to throw this bag, it is very good. The Orc/Starfire is a great combo. A heavy Star Orc should be very reliable for you in the "main" slot (try a red or blue one). You might test it against the Eagle for distance.

I crush the Eagle (love the Eagle for lines), but I can throw an Orc farther.

[practically invincible]

CE stands for champion edition in my mind, i'm probably wrong though. And as far as a real beefy mid I still don't have much use for it. I had a roc for a while that I could dial in to do almost anything, then for another month it was a wasp and they weren't helping my game at all. I found I could make other discs work for those exact shots, thats why I took them out of the bag. Even though it seems like convention on this forum to have one.

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[practically invincible]

not that it's relevant to your thread at all ...

CE = Champion Edition
CL = Champion Line

we all know it as Champion plastic, but those are the abbreviations that Innova uses to differentiate types of Champ. if they used "CE Eagle" on a current order form, there would be riots in the street

So I don't really understand that, could you explain? Is a CL Orc just a standard champ plastic orc then a CE Orc is a special release? Is that right?

Oh, btw.... Elite Z breeze is a really nice one disc round toy, or also a smooth long straight put disc. My new avenger is behaving an awful lot like my 175g eagle, so I'm not super excited about it.

[gratefuldisc]

CE is the old champion plastic that ranged from completely opaque to not so opaque and was discontinued by innova. Just about everyone agrees it was the best plastic ever offered by innova (arguably by any company). Most CE discs are now collectors items. Some first runs going for ridiculous amounts of money.

example:http://cgi.ebay.com/disc-golf-CE-Valkyrie-VK-2-run-flat-top-unreal-175g-new_W0QQitemZ220179459654QQihZ012QQcategoryZ20851QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

"Champion" usually refers to the modern champion plastic that most innova discs are readily available in.

[practically invincible]

Was there ever a CE Eagle? Because mine is mostly opaque, I got it in a trade off of a friend who didn't throw it often so there isn't any stamp markings visible. Thanks for answering my question btw.

[gratefuldisc]

http://cgi.ebay.com/CE-EAGLE-FIRST-RUN-INNOVA-RARE-MINT-175g-GOLF-DISC_W0QQitemZ380023343117QQihZ025QQcategoryZ20851QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[practically invincible]

Cool, my disc looks similar in opaqueness to that one so who knows... discs are made to be thrown, it isn't worth 125 bucks...

[garublador]

You need a Roc, Buzzz, or Wasp.

You have no beefy mid.

I'll second this. The Champ Shark is alright, but you said you're getting rid of it.

Is the Orc really your understalbe driver, or just one you use for S shots and distance? Ideally, your understable driver will flip from a hyzer to a controlable turn or hold an anhzyer the whole way without fighting back to flat or fading hard at the end.