ADiscand3Plates wrote:I got the other side of this one. I don't have the arm you guys do. The gummy QMS does me just fine. A little turn to the right, then a little turn to the left and we are done. You want more left turn, throw a little bit higher or get out your trusty Sirius Sentinel. You want more right turn, get out your trusty beat-to-death Millennium MS.
I never did like the grip of a hard QMS.
ZAMson wrote:Currently in my bag, I've got a first run/CE QMS at 180g, a gummy QMS at 180g, an SMS at 169g, and auditioning a first run at 169g. Before the SMS and CE, I'd have a gummy and a stiff.
I find that for ripping drives, the CE will flatten up and take all the power more than any other run/plastic. My stiff QMS was similar, with a little more turn. With the gummy QMS, I use that to hold a line more... big hyzers, big annys, or straight up. I've decided that the slightly wobbly plastic gives it more gyroscopic action (you can feel it flatten when you throw), and that a little off-axis will make it flutter and turn over, but on a smooth plane I can have it resist that turn. I can't throw it balls-out like my CE, and I have a looser grip on it that just snaps out. It's sweet though... between the grip and the flight, I end up throwing it with lower power and more accuracy. I am more comfortable throwing annys with the gummy than the other ones. I love em all, and I'd say the gummy is my favorite right behind the CE. Also, the gummies and CE tend to be flatter on top than the M, stiff Q, or S plastic.
Jerry R wrote:Is the difference between the stiff and gummy obvious if you don't have two to compare? I have two QMS, but they are both the same. I also have a SMS.
ZAMson wrote:But I'd say the gummies are just as durable as the stiff ones.
ZAMson wrote:After talking about these I played a mostly QMS round yesterday... didn't realize how far I could get these on a line... stuff I'd normally do with a JLS. Threw one hole backwards, about 275', and landed all four on the teepad. They took more height than I'm used to, but damn they were straight. I did work out my accidental anny problems, which was all off-axis and overpowering... used to couldn't put the mustard on to get them far. The old warehouse guys throw the snot out of QMS, so I know it can be done.
So here's my theory on what a QMS is... Ontario Roc top and core, and Stingray wing. Basically a modified/beadless O-Roc wing... not a beadless Roc wing, but a beadless wing that averages the form of the beaded wing in a beadless form. If that makes any sense. Just look at those three discs, QMS, O-Roc, and Stingray, and see what you think. I've never confirmed it, I just got that from observation. Makes sense though... glidey, straight midrange driver.
Champion Ontario Roc with a beadless wing... you'd think they'd cost more.
ZAMson wrote:JR wrote:Is that 275' with a hard or gummy disc?
All four of em... 180 CE and Gummy Q, 169 CE and Sirius. The two lighter ones are specifically for touch shots and annys. The lighter ones I gave a little more hyzer.. none of them flipped that much, but they all hit the same spot and took the flight from there.
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